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Legal human
A podcast exploring the enduring and evolving role of human lawyers in the rapidly changing legal ecosystem.
There is a lot of talk about the potential impact of generative AI on the role of lawyers. In this podcast we ask some amazing human lawyers to consider the changing role of lawyers in a technology-enabled future and how we can work together to create a future where human lawyers can thrive. We explore:
- the strengths of human lawyers that will become even more important in our technology-enabled future
- the changing nature and importance of human expertise
- the increasing importance of the relational aspects of practice
- developing our ability to operate in genuine complexity and influence complex human systems.
Kate Sherburn is Legal Beagle (Chief Legal Officer) at the profit-for-purpose toilet paper company, Who Gives a Crap. In this episode of Legal human, Kate challenges the common belief that forming close relationships with stakeholders can undermine your independence as a lawyer.
Professor Pip Nicholson is the Deputy Vice Chancellor for People and Community at the University of Melbourne, and the former Dean of Melbourne Law School. In this conversation with Anthony Kearns, she discusses how she sees her role and identity in relation to the legal profession.
Olivia Perks is General Counsel of the University of Sydney. In this episode of Legal human, Olivia shares some of her team's recent work as well as its further plans to embed OGC as strategic leaders in the University.
In this episode of Legal human, Justin Moses, Acting General Counsel of Cancer Council NSW, speaks to Anthony Kearns about the importance of compassion in the delivery of legal services and how compassion is key to the enduring value of human lawyers.
Anthony Kearns is joined by the always thoughtful and creative Richard Oakes, Co-Founder and CEO of O10. In this episode, Richard shares his reflections on helping incredibly intelligent and cognitive professionals appreciate that legal practice is an energetic and intensely human experience.
In this episode of Legal Human, Fleur Katsmartin, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary of the Royal Melbourne Hospital, reflects on her journey to becoming an authentic lawyer. Fleur discusses the challenges of starting her career in a large law firm, where she felt pressure to conform to a traditional idea of what a lawyer "should" be.
Richard Holbeach, General Counsel and Company Secretary of Healthscope, talks about the complexity, challenges and privilege of leading a small team of human lawyers in the largest network of private hospitals in Australia.
In this episode of Legal human, host Anthony Kearns is joined by Kirsty Harvison, Senior Manager, Bendelta and former General Counsel. Kirsty reflects on her journey from law firm associate to in-house counsel, exploring how the role of a lawyer evolves in varying business contexts.